Comments on: Wow, There’s A Lot Of Unearthed Arcana Stuff In 4e

By: Hymn Collection: Spirits of Eden 2009 Edition « The Spirits of Eden

Hymn Collection: Spirits of Eden 2009 Edition « The Spirits of Eden — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:10:48 +0000

[...] •Wow There’s A Lot Of 3.5 Stuff In 4e: This post was fun and informative. For all you people still playing 3.5 who want it to look more like 4e (and this is a subject that still comes up a lot) you should look to your own system for how to do it. Practically everything that makes 4e what it is began in D&D 3.5 in some way. Read the article, notice the similarities and chuckle. This one got 192 views, which is a pretty decent showing for something like this, probably because people jumped in thinking about editions wars and controversy. [...]

By: Wyatt

Wyatt — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:44:34 +0000

Yeah, I was only looking at UA because it’s freely available and I can easily link people to it or quote it for them to see for themselves. If you scour all of 3.5, you’ll see a lot of 4e prototypical ideas.

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:40:49 +0000

Wyatt,

Funny, I like 3.5 more than 4.0, but I agree, there was a lot of testing things out before 4.0 hit the shelf.

Here’s a few you missed from non UA sources….

Both the warlock and the reserve feat system were ways to give arcanists some sort of ‘at will’ power like ’swing sword’.

Marshal auras and the grant move ability really presaged the warlord class.

Magic Item Compendium had any number of items which worked a few times a day, instead of having 50 charges, or just one.

There were a number of attempts to make healing work a little differently, including the Sacred Healing Feat, and Dragon Shamans auras.

By: andrewplus

andrewplus — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:48:24 +0000

Amazing how these rules only became WoWy in a 4e package.

By: Viktor

Viktor — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:53:30 +0000

UA is pretty much the only reason I still run 3.5 games every now and then.

By: Antioch

Antioch — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:43:39 +0000

Unearthed Arcana had a lot of interesting ideas, though I admittedly used very little of the book. In retrospect some of it had merit, but I remember that in at least one instance of an optional rule they explained it and then told you why it was a bad idea to to this (armor as DR).

By: Donny_the_DM

Donny_the_DM — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:06:45 +0000

Excellent food for thought, Wyatt. I thought that some of the mechanics were vaguely familiar, but couldn’t place them.

I share your pain in terms of catchy blog titles – stinking people and their short attention spans!

By: Richard

Richard — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:56:21 +0000

Blimey, I’d forgotten half this stuff! And you’re right about Tome of Battle – too cool for school!

By: Helepolis

Helepolis — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:18:53 +0000

I always love reading the descriptions for things like Magic Checks. Because surely, there must be an easier way to word in, but I’ll be damned if they’d use one.